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WOW, what a story, but I do get annoyed at Aussies that come over here and play those sort of stunts, fortunately I haven't come across one otherwise I would kick his arse back on the plane.
 Some of us did it the right way and went through the right avenues. And yes it was difficult to clean the GT in the early days but it is done.
  Now as for the XC ute, the guy was barking up the wrong tree, I guess he got them for next to nothing and tried to porn them off here. Considering they arn't worth it back home anyway. The same goes for the later utes that are hovering around here in california. They are trying to register them as Rancheros. Problem is how would I want to drive them if I got pulled up and tried to pass them up as a Ranchero, thats why I don't touch them. Now the XY utes are worth the money.
  And finally since we are on a Hotrod forum, the real utes that are worth the money is the Aussie built Mainlines and Chevys, they are hot at the moment on the Streetrod scene.  Now your talking MONEY  

I am assuming you had "dinkum" XY GTHO Phase III Falcon's? Always wondered: What U.S. car of that time period did they compare too?

Our "Musle" an "Pony" cars did not have refined suspension systems where the Aussie car did(?). The term "High Performance" can be slanted to mean many things and that's why I wonder exactally what the GTHO's had to offer, besides being different then the typical four and six cylinder cars of that time period in OZ.  

Well here'e the main thing which you will laugh about.The XY GTHO was considered the worlds fastest 4 door production car. Yeh I know the 4 door put it aside from all those fast 2 doors they produced in America. You know the way you guys talk about the World Series.What ever happened to all the other countries?
  Anyway, it had a 351 4 bolt mains with 4V heads and a 4 speed toploader tranny.Yep it was fast. We have a lot of 4 door muscle cars back home which puts things in a different catagory. I guess we wanted to get mum to the loacl store in a hurry! America was the 2 door king, so anything under that did not seem realistic.
  The GT had a lot of accessaries that the Mach 1 Mustang offered. Australia had to produce so many of these cars to be able to race them under the catagory for circuit racing, Holden also so did it with the early Monaro with the Chevy motor in it . These are very sort after these days. Only recently has Holden produced the Chevy in the Lasted models, eg your Pontiac GTO ( our Monaro), The G8 ( our Commodore. So a lot of the upgrades were done to comply to racing as long as they offered so many for sale and a lot was influenced by the American models of previous years. So a lot of models were similar to the American vehicle eg the Rachero and the Falcon ute.  

Yes, but what American car would/did the GT HO Phase III compare to?

As for being the "Fastest Production 4-dr Sedan", that was not a joke as they could outrun the German cars. But the German "saloons" would have been easier to drive over a long distance because they were more refinded in areas Ford never bothered to study.

I have a copy of the 140 MPH in 5th photo (which was actually in 4 th gear!) from Street Machine Magazine. That one photo shut down the performance car in OZ for several decades. Something about the companies selling race cars to the general public who were not trained to drive race cars.

After all the developments during the last few decades it is a laugh to re-read the "selling race cars to the general public".  

Well that is a good question. What did America have in the 4 door version in 1971? Sure there probably was that big 460 but it wouldn't compare to the high performance of the 351 GT.You did have the 4 door falcon Sprint which was the closest thing to the look of the GT. Actually it was the car that the GT was designed from. Anyway when you were brought up around that era you have a soft spot for the GTHO. I certainly wish the one I built for a friend in California was sitting in my garage,but I have spent most of my time been caught up in the American muscle cars and have missed certain opportunities to build one of the GT's.Even the standard XY Falcons are getting hard to find.  

Sorry for the delay, forgot my password.

Actually you did not ask my question as I meant were there ANY North American cars close to the performance of the XY GTHO Phase III no matter the number of doors.

But during the time I tried to find my password I did realize that one US car with four doors applies. Back near the end of the actual U.S. Chevy Nova a number of cars were built for service with the LA County (not city) sheriff's department. There must have been quite an over run as at least six made it to use car lots here in Central Ohio.

I believe that five were purchased by either law enforcement officers or agencies and one became a drag car. The five either vanished quickly or their skunk paint jobs (black fenders, hood, trunk lid, white top and doors, were repainted. I do remember seeing some Novas on the streets that had a "cop car/utility" look about them.

Can't recall the original specs, the four door vehicles were patrol units while the two door(?) versions were "dectective units". Or maybe the dectective units had bucket seats vs bench and all were four doors?

All had hot factory built 350 engines, heavy duty suspensions with handling packages, and a unique quick steering box not offered on any other Chevy at that time.

Sounds like the Aussie Falcon GTHO without the deluxe interior treatment doesn't it?

Some law enforcement departments had "odd" vehicles over the years that just were not common. Back in 55 California and some New England states had 55 Buick 2 doors (at least the Bradrick Crawford TV show gave the impression the New England states had them even thought thew show was filmed in LA, ten-four, ten-four?)

The ORIGINAL 442 was a law enforcement vehicle that was tested and/or served n California. I recal the ads when the general public 442 came out showing a cruiser and stating the name meant "Four doors, four barrel, and dual exhaust".

Well, that could be considered like the Falcon GTHO even though it was a bigger car.  

I guess most of the muscle cars in America could be considered along that line of the GTHO. I haven't done any comparison in the actual figures.I'd suspect that many would out perform the GT. Anyway this is why the word '4 DOOR' was used.
 Anyway funny enough, I saw a XF Falcon ute on the road on the way to the Pomona Swap meet in Southern California on the weekend.Yep another one sneaks through the system.  

Yep, they are not so "uncommon" over here anymore. But that is the first XF I have heard of.

Most common are the 1940/50 models, usually Chebbie. Have seen photos from the Pomona meet from several years ago and there were at least four at that meet. (Was surprised to see a mountain in the background! I was there during the summer of 64 and there was no indication of a mountain being that close. Shows how much the smog level has changed?)

The two Cheebie utes I know of here in town were imported through an Aussie speed shop (not Castlemaine) which makes glass fiber replacement panels for the Chebbie.
Can't figure out why the Fords aren't coming over, or the Valiant ute. That was one good looking vehicle.  

Actually there are some weird and wonderful Aussie cars have arrived here over the years. I have seen a Sandman panelvan around here in Socal and a early Monaro,2 Holden utes, an XB 2 door falcon, then again there are alot of Mad Max replicas here also, also an XW ute and XY wagon.Problem is a lot of them were grey market imprts and people registered them as an American equivalet. I did import the XYGT the correct way which was a real hassle, but these days it is out of the parimeters of the rules which will make it a little easier. As for the Valiants, I guess there probably is one somewhere. I did speak to a guy at one stage in the past that had a GOSS Special 2 door falcon.
   Well I guess I went the other way sometimes and converted a few of my own vehicles to Right hand drive here in California. My 67 Mustang got done and my Chevy truck, you see now I can go through IN AND OUT Burger anyway I want.  

Yes, tell me about drive through service.

And mail box at the post office being on the wrong side.

Toll Booths on the outerbelt in the Chi-Town area on the wrong side (no was I was going to get out of the vehicle as the local traffic bearly slows down for the toll booths!) Actually it was more fun to drive the interstates through town in a RHD vehilce. Especially one that hadn't been gassed up since leaving Appelton and driven 95+, or so I was told, trying to outrace a bad storm 3/4 the way to Chi-Town!

Oh the joys of RHD in the States. I'm going to miss it.  

Those RHD cars were Nova's and it was a contract with the US Postal Service that got them built for rural mail cariers and contractors. They were usually 4dr sedans or wagons with a 194 6 cylinder and powerglide, have seen one wagon that had a 283.  

Well thats something different, never seen any of those. Then again I'm not much out that way these days.All the post vehicles over here are RHD jeeps or something to that liking.  

No Jalopy, those were completely different vehicles.

There was a run of Law Enforcement Novas, most were sent to California. One of the "Motor Trend-type" car magazines ran an article on the vehicles, sorta remember it was a Peterson Publication (remeber peterson Publications? Sign! They were the people that didn't have Flordia condistributing R & ***  

Oh, well I guess I can't leave those RHD's alone. These days I'm just building them for a gimmick over here and then again when I've finished with them I can ship them back to the mother land. The lastest project is a 1947 Ford Snubnose with a V8 catapillar motor and twin tandom bogie rear axles. I probably will convert it to RHD and thats just for promotion reasons, just another reason for it to stand out from the crowd.  

Back to the original topic: not being able to find R & C on the local news stands.

Back about six months ago R & C disappered from the "Wally's Mart" magazine rack and started to show up on racks at Central Ohio stores where people DON'T mind being seen (vs. being seen in Wally's Mart!).

At the same time many of the newer rat rod titles also vanished at Wally Mart and are now only seen in a few out-of-the-way places.

The World seems to be so much better now...